Hmm.. played how? I have nothing.. they can't take what I dont have.. No one is playing me. I know how to look around me, look at facts, statistics, make my own judgments.

Fact is, this economy is in the crapper, and under current policies is NOT recovering. Unemployment is NOT dropping. Nothing Obama is doing, is helping anyone I know get work.

He's had his chance, he failed.

Time to look for new solutions and honestly, I dont care if its a rich powerful man, or a Ghetto raised entrepreneur that lifts us up as a nation again, ALL I care about is.. someone does.

I don't listen to much talk radio, just while taking the wife to work, Fox news stays on my tv behind me, and obviously I can't turn that off for a week, A week with no Megan Kelly?

lol.

Its not the media driving my thought process, its everyday things, price of gas, everyone I know looking for work, grocery prices, the air of entitlement that permeates every corner of our society, general despair etc etc... hard to ignore things or not think or talk about them when it is all around you, everyday.

It's time to start turning things around, It's time for a real change and I dont mean another flip from DEM to GOP.

Ii really do hope, that someone emeres with some real solutions, with a can do, will do attitude.

This country isn't dead yet, It just needs some new, strong leadership.

I'm with you on this one and I don't have a problem crossing party lines for the right person.

Common ground at last

Truth is, I'm WAY more about person than party.. and I fully believe, someone will emerge soon.. not a savior, just the right person, at the right time.

a LOT of folks, thought that was Obama, unfortunately, to me it seems, he was lifted up SO high, failure was inevitable.

Well, one thing Obama did right in terms of the economy was resist the temptation to go blasting into Libya.  Those darned military expeditions are expensive.  A lot of people thought he should've, and some politicians certainly would've (former VP wanted to do it years ago and even Bush wouldn't buy that).  So in terms of the economy you've got to at least give him credit for that.

But yep, my ears are open.  Haven't seen a candidate yet that I like though.

Has 'None of the above' been added to the ballots yet? 

Frustration was inevitable, not failure. That came from amateurishness and from the determination to see him fail... which is unforgivable.

Despite the fact he Obungled quite a bit, M. McConnell's stated aim to make him fail and the total 'no' certainly helped his inability to get things done.

As a citizen you know it takes 60 votes to pass a bill in the Senate. Was it really just a coincidence or more of a conspiracy that the other party voted uniformly 'no' and Joe Lieberman the ultimate piece of self interested slime.

At any rate, it's my opinion that they all suck and that the people need to throw the zeroes out - all of them and start from scratch with them having a healthy respect and fear of us.

Me? I'm voting for Stephen Harper.

Seth, it strikes me that when the GOP says no, that it is perceived they are somehow .. 'the party of no'

In my estimation, they are anything but.. The way I see it, you say no, when you disagree with the law, policy, spending etc.

If turning this country into a culture of dependency would have been the end result, yeah, I'm damn glad.. they said no.

If Obama wanted to 'get things done'.... he should have put forth bills with far more bipartisan support.

and lets face it, he had the golden ticket for 2 solid years, while the GOP could do nothing... and here we are.. broke, unemployed, and hungry.

Time for a real change... and it's coming.

You know it wasn't that long ago that the Republicans gained control of the White House, the Senate, and the House.  I remember thinking to myself "Well, one way or another, something will probably happen."  And it did, and we didn't seem to like it.  Then the House flipped to the Democrats.  Then the White House flipped to the Democrats.  Well we don't seem to like that either.

All of this has been within the last decade, a short time in a country's history.  One group may say "Obama's had his chance" and another group can easily say "The Republicans had their chance, an even better one at that with full control."  I'm not sure that I've really got a point other than politically our memories seem to be surprisingly short.  If nothing else remember that while these people are telling you what they think you want to hear.

Well, Dave, ur pretty much right on that.... However, I suppose, the way I think about it is, this is a different world, a different time, different people vying for office.

I suppose the optimist in me believes that, like I said, someone special, on a new day, will make a huge change.

Its not about one party versus the other, its about who, inside that party, can and does.. lead.

You can't have him.

No, John. It was quite deliberate and the motivation? Well, believe as you will but the sting of defeat certainly had a good deal to do with it. Human nature and the determination to show their base that they would remain strong, as well. There may have been other motives, but let that rest.

There was no effort to go to a "culture of dependency" but that is indeed a disgusting result of the polarization of the population and 'appeal'/power base of each party... another thing which must change if there is to be any progress.

The numbers, John. The numbers. "he had the golden ticket for 2 solid years, while the GOP could do nothing" (except say no) and among the 60 were Dixiecrats...remember? Let's not rewrite history. I mentioned the numbers before because of the relevancy to this point exactly. At least the Democrats showed more diversity and less 'discipline'. That has always been true and more reassuring than 'lockstep'.

And let's forget compromise. That is heresy. Unfortunately it's the only way to conduct a Democracy.

"and here we are.. broke, unemployed, and hungry". The blame for that spreads fully through our society. Not just Wall St., and not just Bush or Clinton; but the people who were irresponsible and includes the public (selling the value of their homes for vacations, speculation, toys and nonsense) as well as deregulation and approving investment and credit instruments as well as mortgages which were faulty.

Recovery will have to come from manufacturing and export. That will take time, and Obama said so from the get go. He inhereted several major catastrophes and while I wish he could have done better, I don't think he shirked... he could have tried harder for the Public Option and that really would have driven the cost of health care and insurance down. It's clear who opposed that with untruths and the motives behind the scare tactics and shouting representatives down. So, now pay the price...

As to who will win and why? I have seen very little evidence of clear, critical thought in the public during my 44 years of adult life. I doubt it will start now.

Who's asking. How I love that man. A truly morally upright leader. In every sense of the word. I hope Canada treasures him. He deserves it.

Well, I'm not going to hazard a prediction yet... but.. It won't be Barack Obama... that I will predict.

We all need to look forward, not backwards, there's enough blame to go around, lets just hope whoever is in office.. is moral, capable, and willing.

now see, that's you listening to talk radio/FOX news. There'll be only two people running and the opposition has squat to offer.

John, haven't you learned by now that the hard core Obamanites just cannot be converted to reasonable thought. LOL.

Don't blame him. He's nothing more than an empty suit that cannot hold a reasonable conversation without a telepropmter. Hell He didn't even write his own book.

The real power lies far behind the lines that we as the general public will never see. Don't know when it became that way or if it was designed that way but NOBama has made it much easier to see.

And he didn't graduate Summa Cum Laude from Harvard Law either. Yeah... real stupid.

I absolutely agree.

Let's hope that politics change. Another 4 years like this and I'd say scrap it and start over. The right way.

Perhaps not. Mitt's looking not bad. Perry? I'm on my way anywhere.